When a man or woman suffers from a condition named Narcissistic Personality Disorder, they display patterns of deviant or abnormal behaviour that is so bad, that it creates carnage on those people who are unfortunate enough to have a close relationship with them.
The dysfunctional behaviour involves such callous exploitation of their victims that it has given birth to a new condition known as Narcissistic Victim Syndrome (or Narcissistic Abuse Syndrome). While plenty has been written medically about Narcissistic Personality Disorder (NPD), little or nothing has been written about Narcissistic Victim Syndrome (NVD). The Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM-IV), which is published by the American Psychiatric Association, and it is considered the “bible” for all professionals, covers NPD extensively. However DSM-IV has not written anything about the effects on those who live or work with the narcissist’s torturous behaviours, and the consequences of that behaviour on the mental health of the victim. Thanks to the dedicated work of many psychotherapists, it has become clear that a set of detectable characteristics occur when working with victims of narcissistic abuse. The good news is that American therapists are calling for the recognition of this syndrome to be included in the next Diagnostic and Statistical Manual (DSM-V, to be published in 2013), in the hope that all therapists will be given standard guidelines for formulating a way of working with this syndrome.
First, What do we mean by “Syndrome”?
The word “syndrome” comes from the Greek “syn”, which means together, and “dramein”, which means to run. So a syndrome is a set of signs and symptoms that tend to run together in a cluster that can be recognized as causing a physical, mental, emotional, and spiritual abuse. In order to be able to diagnose a client suffering with Narcissistic Victim Syndrome, the therapists needs to be able to gather together the signs and symptoms and access the client’s psychological make-up as their story unfolds. That way they will be in a position to know if the person is suffering from Narcissistic Victim Syndrome, or a lesser form of abuse on their mental well-being.
Do therapists know enough about the effects of Narcissism on the Victim?
Speaking for psychotherapists in Ireland, I can confidently say “definitely not”. Narcissistic Personality Disorder is predominately the domain of psychiatrists, psychologists, and the mental health services; so naturally, rarely would a diagnosed narcissist be consciously referred to a psychotherapist outside of the Mental Health Services. Naturally, as a consequence, the mental health services only concentrated on the vulnerability and treatment of the narcissistic patient in their care, their priority is not the victim; unless the victim ends up in psychiatric care themselves somewhere down the line at a later date.
Victims are more likely to present themselves in counselling or psychotherapy, not because they know that they may be suffering from NVS, but because they are not coping with their lives. I have spoken to many other psychotherapists, and although they know of narcissism, none feel that they have been sufficiently trained for recognizing narcissistic behaviour and its effects on victims, let alone work with Narcissistic Victim Syndrome. Because most Irish psychotherapy courses do little or no training in this area, and the fact that little or nothing has been written in the medical literature regarding the victims of narcissistic abuse, it is my observation that, the majority of therapists, through no fault of their own, are ill equip to work with clients with this syndrome. If you read any of the Support Forums for survivors of narcissistic abuse, you will constantly hear them say that their therapists did not understand the depth of suffering they had been subjected to, and that the term “narcissistic abuse” had rarely been mentioned to them.
Understanding Narcissistic Victim Syndrome (NVS) first requires an understanding of Narcissistic Personality Disorder (NPD):
In order to be an effective therapist in the area of narcissistic victim abuse, it is vital to understand all that you can about the spectrum of narcissistic behaviour. The spectrum of narcissism exists on a continuum, from healthy narcissism, to unhealthy traits, and all the way to pathological Narcissistic Personality Disorder. By the way, the narcissist does not have to display all of the traits associated with the full blown pathological stage of narcissism in order to do untold damage to their victims. For that reason, therapists need to familiarize themselves about narcissistic traits and the relationship dynamics between the narcissist and their victim. I am talking about the narcissists overwhelming need for entitlement, control, power, grandiosity and specialness, and how they use these traits to keep their omnipotent fantasies and their vulnerable ego in tact.
Due to their own lack of receiving reasonably attuned care-giving as a child (whether it was being under protected or over protected), the narcissist does not develop the authentic “True Self” that is necessary for confident living. A disregard of the child’s basic needs disturbs their development of self-esteem and the ability to function effectively. In order to protect themselves, they invest a lot of energy building up defenses. One of those defenses to is develop a “False Self”; which is a mask of behaviour that allows them to put on a show of being real in public. However, this pretense leaves the narcissist constantly guarding themselves from being “found out”, making them overly sensitive to narcissistic injury. Narcissistic injury is any perceived threat (real or imagined) to the narcissist’s self-esteem or self-worth. So in order to maintain their illusion and protect their false self from any fluctuations of a disappointed ego-ideal, the narcissist demands that they receive perfect mirroring, stroking, and responses from their victims; this attention is known as narcissistic supply.
What is Narcissistic Supply?
Narcissistic supply is anything in fact that shields the narcissist from feeling a sense of shame or abandonment, and this is an integral part of narcissism. The narcissist needs narcissistic supply in order to preserve their fragile ego, and this can be provided by two distinct sources:-
- Primary Narcissistic Supply provides all of the attention that the narcissist addict craves. The nature of the attention can be experienced in either a public form (such as fame, celebrity, notoriety, or infamy etc.), or in a private form (such as admiration, flattery, acclaim, fear, repulsion etc.).
- Secondary Narcissistic Supply alludes to those people or things that provide supply on a regular basis (such as a spouse, children, friends, colleagues, partners, clients, etc.). This latter form of supply allows the narcissist to lead a more normal existence, it provides them with pride, financial safety, social distinction and the alliance that they need.
However, narcissistic supply is not confined to people only, it can be applied to any inanimate object that has the ability to attract attention and admiration to the narcissist, (for example, a flash car, property, clothes, being a member of a church, cult, club, or a business). In short, anything that acts as status symbols for the narcissist is “narcissistic supply”.
The therapist will also need to know how these behaviours go hand-in-hand with the obsessive multi-addictions of the narcissist. Obsessed by the illusion of a False Self, and an inflated sense of their own superiority, power, and control, the narcissist renders himself susceptible to all sorts of obsessions, compulsions, and addictions; such as, addiction to Narcissistic Supply; to Grandiosity; to Control, to Power; to Rage; to Perfectionism; to Attention; to Fame etc. Without a comprehensive knowledge of narcissism, a therapist has no way of understanding the devastating effects of the narcissistic abuse on the victim they are treating, effects that are so crippling that they can result in Narcissistic Victim Syndrome.
To-day I do a great deal of work in this area, and my mission is to teach other therapist all that I have learned, so that they too can become more effective in working in the area of this form of abuse, which is very much on the increase. My intention is not to “bad mouth” those who are suffering from Narcissistic Personality Disorder, on the contrary, I believe that they are also victims of abuse somewhere in their past, and they too suffer greatly on a daily basis. What I hope is that my study will allows for more compassion towards both the narcissist and the victim, and provide therapists with insights for a better way of recognizing and working with narcissistic abuse in the therapeutic process.
What is Narcissistic Victim Syndrome?
First, what is the definition of the word “Victim”? - “A victim is a person harmed, injured, or killed as a result of a crime, accident, or other event or action”. So I think we can safely say (using this definition), that any person who has experienced narcissistic abuse has been harmed, injured, and in some cases, even killed as result of the narcissists behaviour, then they are indeed victims.
When working with individuals who are displaying symptoms of narcissistic victim syndrome, the thing that I notice most of all is that the person feels so torn because they don’t understand what has happened to them. Before they can begin to put themselves back together, I believe that it is vital that the therapist must, through the process of the therapeutic work in progress, educate the individual in the area of Narcissistic Personality Disorder (the What, the When, the How, and the Why of the abuse etc) so that they can begin to make sense of what was really happening as their story unfolds. Without such information it is virtually impossible to build up their self-esteem to healthy levels, thus leaving them vulnerable to further re-victimization, and future entrapment with other narcissists.
Once a person has become a victim of a narcissist (whether it happened in childhood or later on in life), the victims are already unconsciously primed to enter the narcissist’s “convoluted dance” that opens them up to further abuse. It is necessary for the therapist to gently shine a light on what they are doing in the dance that makes them a victim. Once again, a “Narcissistic Victim” is any person who is harmed, injured or killed by a person who displays pathological narcissism (which can occur on a spectrum of severity).
The victim needs to understand that this “dance” of codependency requires two people: the pleaser/fixer (victim), and the taker/controller (narcissist/addict), together both partners dance beautifully in perfect step, and the madness begins. The consequences for the victim not understanding the intricacy of the dance, is that, no matter how often they try to avoid “unhealthy” partners, they will find themselves habitually returning to the same dance floor; the only thing that will change is that they will find themselves dancing to a different tune, but always the personality of the dance partner remains the same.
Therapist need to be seriously aware that narcissism is a very complex disorder that creates a lot of suffering, both to the person who has the disorder, and to those people who have to live with the disordered narcissistic behavior on a daily basis. When I speak of narcissistic abuse, (abuse that can lead to Narcissistic Victim Syndrome), I am speaking about a form of abuse that is very insidious. What I mean by insidious is that the abuse is covert, cunning and often indirect. This form of abuse is often carried out in a subtly and clandestine manner, because narcissists go to great pains to avoid being observed publicly as being abusive. This Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde behaviour of the narcissist (loving one minute and totally enraged the next) can inflict great harm on the victim. Understandably, the fear, distress, confusion, inner turmoil, and chaos that they experience leaves them “walking on eggshells” in order to avoid further conflict with the narcissist. The effect on the victim over time can be very crippling indeed. I liken narcissism to a parasitic worm that manages to penetrate under the skin, where it is out of the sight of witnessing eyes, but is free to injure or consume its host slowly, leaving trauma or disease in its wake. By the way, the narcissist can manage to live on inside the victim even after they manage to escape; it is as if their “seed” goes on.
However, when we speak of Narcissistic Victim Abuse, we are speaking of an abuse that has been caused by someone with a personality disorder, and more often than not, their personality disorder has not been medically diagnosed, therefore the narcissistic individual goes undetected in society (i.e. in the home, the work-place, in organizations, in social settings etc.). It is vital to understand that narcissistic personality disorder is a serious mental disorder in which people have an inflated sense of their own importance, and a deep need for attention and admiration. The narcissist believes that they are superior to others, and have little regard for other people’s feelings, regardless of whom they are (i.e. spouse, children, parents, siblings, friends, colleagues, peers etc.). Other people are merely object there to serve their every need as narcissistic supply, and they will use every form of abuse, without guilt, empathy or conscience, in order to make sure that their needs are served.
What do victims of Narcissistic Victim Syndrome look like?
Are these clients likely to come into the therapy room and say “I am the victim of narcissistic abuse”? The answer is, absolutely not? They will look like any other client coming into your therapy room for the very first time. They are probably most likely to bring in an issue that is quite mundane and recognizable; such as, they are feeling depressed, having panic attacks, or the feeling that they cannot cope. They have no idea that they have been living in a “war zone” with a narcissistic personality in command (either in the past or in the present). However, you, as the therapist, do not need to be afraid that you will not be able to cope with this syndrome. If you have completed your training, then you should have all the skills necessary to work with this syndrome. Armed with knowledge of narcissistic abuse, and practical skills of working with trauma, you will become a life-line to any victim of narcissistic abuse.
Like all clients coming into therapy, they have a story to tell; therefore they need someone to become an active listener, and to validate what has happened to them. To my mind, it is the validation of the person’s experience that is vital from the very beginning. These clients are not mad, however, frequently they appear highly strung or nervous, and their levels of fear may be high, while their level of self-esteem is low. Often they present with obsessive compulsive behaviours, phobias, panic attacks, so at times they may actually feel that they are going mad. They may experience insomnia, and may have underlying eating disorders, so you may notice they are either under weight (as a means of having some control), or overweight (as a result of eating to self-comfort).
When working with NVS, you will find yourself working with emotions involving shock, anger, fear, and guilt. Often the victim will be suffering from PostTraumatic-Stress Disorder (PTSD), or Complex Post Traumatic Stress Disorder; Symptoms of PTSD are often grouped into three main categories: Re-living (flashbacks, hallucinations, nightmares etc), Avoiding (people, places, thoughts, loss of interest etc), and Increased Arousal (excessive emotions, problems relating, difficulty in sleeping and concentration, outbursts of anger, anxiousness, panic attacks etc). You may also notice that your client is inclined to “dissociate” while you are talking to them. That is, it seems as if the client is tending to “compartmentalize their experience.”; in so doing, they may appear to be detached from their emotions, body, or immediate surroundings, this experience is called derealization.
Dissociation can be caused as a direct result of trauma, often experienced in multiple forms during narcissistic childhood traumas (i.e. physical, psychological and sexual abuse). The dissociation is an automatic and effective defense mechanism to overwhelming acute stress the child is being subjected to; it is as if the child “jumps out” of their body in order to disconnect from the intolerable reality of the abuse while it is happening; by dissociating, the child is able to endure the highly traumatic experience without having to fully experience it. I once worked with a client who was sexually abused as a child by her narcissistic father. He would call her in when she was playing outdoors with her friends, he would sexually abuse her, then send her straight out again to play. She recounted how, during the sexual abuse, she would escape out of her body, get up on top of the wardrobe and watch what was happening to the child in the bed. She referred to the child in the bed as the “bold girl”, and the child on top of the wardrobe as the “good girl. The bold girl never went outside the house, it was the good girl who went back out to play with all her friends. This defense mechanism protects the child against total annihilation of the self when their nervous system is strained to the limit. However, the long term effect of dissociation is that it may decrease the victim’s psychological functioning and adjustment. Dissociation is a crucial strategy that protects a person during a crisis, unfortunately, trauma survivors often rely too heavily on dissociation whenever they feel stressed in a situation, it can become their automatic freeze response to stress. Numbing the body is not an advantage when a person is called to live in the world, because it can impair their ability to take appropriate fight or flight responses if faced with any threat from outside the self. Of course, there are varying levels of dissociation, from day dreaming to fantasy, from leaving one’s body to derealization (the constant experience of dissociation). In the therapy room, dissociation severely diminishes the client’s ability to be present to the process, if it goes unchecked it may become a stumbling block. The therapist needs to go slowly at first, building trust and safety so as not to derail the person’s system. By explaining what dissociation is, the therapist can gently bring the client’s attention to when they are “leaving”. Taking time to build and practice new skills (in a playful way) as the go. The sequelae of narcissistic abuse may include any of the following symptoms: low self-esteem, self-mutilation (self harming), suicidal thought, chronic pain, PTSD, depression and somatizations.
Somitizations are a variety of physical symptoms that the victim may have experienced, and usually they will go to their doctor to get relief from their symptoms. Most doctor’s are unable to give a true diagnosis of what is really happening, as they can not classify the symptoms as they don’t have any identifiable physical origins. When there is no detectable organic pathology evident, the person is often diagnosed as having a “psychosomatic illnesses”. Somitizations pose a major problem to the narcissistic victim’s general health. Many of the symptoms of their ill health are a direct result of their repressed memories from their narcissistic abuse, usually from childhood. For example, a child might get severe cramps in response to the fear experienced by the narcissistic abuse, then as an adult they may wake up with cramps for no apparent reason that the doctor can find. In this case, it is more likely that they are accessing repressed memories that they are not aware of, but their unconscious is now desperate to cleanse itself. These clients with somatization disorder will typically have visited many doctors in pursuit of effective treatment, and many informed doctors do recognize that often the underlying cause is emotional, and they are then likely to refer the person on to a psychotherapist. Very often the symptoms are cured once the underlying emotional cause is identified, and the repressed memory has a chance to surface in order to be released in the safety of the therapeutic space.
Clients who have suffered narcissistic abused are likely to demonstrate feelings of shame, and humiliation, this is partly due to the narcissistic abuser projecting their shame on to them. They also tend to be over responsible, and apt to self-blame, this is because they learned to take responsible for the narcissists behaviour. Whenever the narcissist’s rage is triggered, without any doubt the victim is told it is their fault (i.e “It’s your fault, you should have known that was going to upset me, now look what you have done”) They may act inferior or powerless, and feel great guilt when talking about their perpetrator, even to the point of wanting to protect them. They will often act with disgust at themselves, thinking they are not good enough, smart enough, pretty enough etc.
Victims often find themselves being victimized by more than one person. They may talk of a second relationship that mirrored the same experience as with their first perpetrator. Quite often the first narcissistic injury is experienced in childhood. It may have been a parent, grandparent, sibling, friend of the victim etc. Having been re-victimized they often internalize that there is something wrong with them, and that they deserve this kind of abuse, and resign themselves to that fate. It may become apparent that they may not have reached their potential in their personal life, or their professional life, this is partly due to the fact that they always had to stand in the shadow of the aggressor, and not upstage them. They learn to live in the shadows without really knowing why. These are some of the signs you can look out for. But there are more complicated symptoms still to be revealed that will need more of a greater explanation.
In Narcissistic Victim Syndrome you are looking for a cluster of symptoms to emerge:
Any of these symptoms mentioned above you might find in any client, however when they present themselves in a cluster, you will start to identify a syndrome emerging. You will identify many of the symptoms of trauma (avoidance behaviour, loss of interest, feeling detached, sense of a limited future, sleeping or eating difficulties, irritability, hypervigilance, easily startled, flashbacks, hopelessness, psychosomatic illnesses, self-harming, thoughts of suicide etc).
In the course of your work together, you may also become aware that the victim always seems to defend their abuser. While the situation would not make sense from a social standpoint, it may make absolute sense from a psychological viewpoint. What you may be witnessing is a psychological condition known as “
Stockholm Syndrome“. Stockholm Syndrome involves the victim emotional bonding with their narcissistic captors, this “trauma bonding” is known to be a strategy of survival for victims of narcissistic abuse and intimidation. In such a hostile environment, the victim soon learns that their abuser does carry out threats, so they are in real danger. Threats to their physical or psychological survival terrify them, leaving them feeling lost and isolated. But then, confusingly, they can also receive small kindnesses from the abuser, which make them feel connected again, connection makes them feel safe once more. It will be important to understand the components of Stockholm Syndrome in order to understand why the victim still wants to support, defend, and even love the perpetrator after all that they have gone through. This is a highly unconscious sophisticated source of defense for survival that needs to be applauded. Sometimes therapists will ask the client why they stayed in such a dysfunctional relationship for so long. This is not a good thing; it also tells me that the therapist does not understand a process called “
Cognitive Dissonance“.
Cognitive dissonance is another unconscious defense mechanism employed for survival. As you can imagine, living in a torturous war zone, where all forms of power and control are used against you (intimidation; emotional, physical and mental abuse; isolation, economic abuse, sexual abuse, coercion, control etc.), the threat of abuse is always present. Coping with these states of mind throw the victim into any number of inner conflicts where defense mechanisms are called for. For example, a woman who is abused by her narcissistic spouse will hate the conditions she is living in. However with the real fear of a violent reprisal from her narcissistic captor if she tried to leave, she will more likely choose to stay put. The cognitive dissonance shows itself through rationalization: On the one hand: she abhors her unhealthy relationship and all the abuse that goes with it; while on the other hand, she tells herself that he only fights with her because he loves and cares for her. This inner dialogue reduced her anxiety, allowing her to bond with her abuser, to the point that she will even protect him from the outside world if people attempt to rescue her or encourage her to leave. The result of that is a massive draining conflict ensues between the person’s emotional self and their rational reasoning self. Their “cognitive dissonance” is a sign of the disharmony the victim is experiencing as a result of two conflicting ideas going on at the same time; i.e. the victim knows that they should get out of the abusive situation, but they also know that to do so will put them (and possibly their children) in great danger. When these two strategies are in place (Stockholm Syndrome and Cognitive Dissonance), the victim firmly believes that their relationship is not only acceptable, but also vital for their survival. They become so enmeshed in the relationship with the abuser, that they feel that their world (mental and emotional) would fall apart if the relationship ended. This explains why they fear those people who attempt to rescue them from their abuser, and how this creates the victim to develop cognitive dissonance and become protective of their abuser.
As you (as therapist) continue to work, another symptom you may become aware of is how the client seems to be feeling uncertain of themselves, constantly second guessing themselves, even in the smallest matters. For example, as you open the door to your client, you might find that they always check “is this the right time for our appointment?” Another thing you may pick up on is, even after discussing something with them in detail, they want further clarification that they are hearing you right. There confidence is so low that they have trouble making simple decisions. You need to be aware if this is happening, because you may be getting a glimpse of another severe symptom of narcissistic abuse called gaslighting.
Gaslighting is a technique of psychological abuse uses by narcissists in order to instill in their victim’s an extreme sense of anxiety and confusion to the point where they no longer trust their own memory, perception or judgment. Gaslighting can happen in any relationship between any gender. It merely requires two people, the gaslighter (the narcissist) and the gaslightee (the victim). The gaslighter needs to be right all the time, that is how they keep their power and sense of self in tact; while the gaslightee gives away their power to the gaslighter because they seek their approval in order to stay safe. That exchange allows the gaslighter to define the gaslightee’s sense of reality.
“The Gaslighting Tango” is one of the narcissist’s games that happen gradually over time, it is a game (or dance) that allows them to define and shape their victim’s reality by eroding them mentally. To the victim, the gaslighting starts with the stage of disbelief, i.e. something happens in the gaslighting exchange that seems odd to them, and they can’t believe that it has happened. In the next state it moves to defense, at this point the victim still has enough of their self to fight and defend themselves against the gaslighting manipulation, however they are told things each time that end up confussing them, (i.e. “You’re too sensitive”, “are you mad”, or “I never said that, you’re imagining things?”). Or the narcissist may play tricks on them, moving or hiding things, and when the victim asks them if they have moved the object, they deny it, saying they never saw it. Gradually the victim, unable to work out the game, finally begins to doubt themselves. The final stage is depression, and by now they don’t even recognize who they have become, and they feel broken and isolated. They begin to feel that they can’t do anything right any more, they don’t feel that they can trust their own mind, and they withdraw with a skewed reality of what is really taking place.
The techniques for gaslighting are powerful, mind-games; they are similar to certain forms of brainwashing, interrogation, and torture formally practiced by Central Intelligence Agencies and Religious Cults for decades. The narcissist uses gaslighting as a deliberate and cruel way to manipulate the victim into thinking that they are loosing their mind. They bombard the victim with such uncertainty that eventually they are unable to trust their own perception anymore. When they reach this state, they begin to doubt everything about their own selves, their thoughts, their opinions, their ideas, their ideals. Often they think they are loosing their minds, and they become very co-dependent on their abuser for a sense of reality.
This is a quick exploration of the complicated subject of Narcissistic Victim Syndrome, and hopefully I have demonstrated the need for a therapist to have a good working knowledge of the “isms” of what Narcissist Personality Disorder entails. It is my opinion that without this knowledge the therapist would not be informed enough to be able to take the victim deep enough into their own story. They need to educate the victim about narcissistic behaviours so that they can make sense of the long painful journey they were on with their narcissist dance partner (whether it is a parent, sibling, friend, co-worker etc). Without putting these separate parts together (personal therapy and educational therapy), I fear that it would leave the victim vulnerable to future re-victimization. Many victims seem to progress from crisis to crisis, making them particularly at high risk of re-victimization. This is because the victim will continue to attract narcissists like a moth to a flame because they have been well groomed in their responses, this leaves them looking like obvious willing partners to the convoluted dance with the narcissist. Of course, this is far from the truth, because the victim is totally unconscious of there being any dance going on, they are totally oblivious to the fact that they are a partner in the dance. This ignorance leaves they open to the danger of forming another dangerous liaison and be victimized yet again.
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I am so glad that FINALLY, there are therapists that are starting to realise that being a victim of Narc’s really exist. I first learned about NPD from my therapist and Psychiatrist in 2001. Unfortunately though, there wasn’t a lot of information about being the victim of Narcissists. The first book I read (as suggested by my therapist) ‘Why is it always about you?’ by Nancy Hodgekiss. I have read so many books since that time. I do wonder if you have read The Narcissistic Family: Diagnosis and Treatment, written by Stephanie Donaldson-Pressman, Robert M. Pressman. I also recommend Dr. Karyl McBride. Here, in the United States, she writes extensively on NPD disorder and how it affects it’s children/victims. She also writes for Psychology Today. I applaud your work and am so glad to see that someone, and others are realising this is an actual form of abuse and has horrific outcomes on the people involved. I have felt so frustrated in seeing so many therapists and being diagnosed with things other than that of being raised by two Narcissistic parents. Thank God for my last two therapists.( whom told me to run as fast as my legs would carry me, in the opposite direction away from any therapists suggesting otherwise.) I even went to University to get my Bachelor’s in Psychology so I could understand what I was going through!! Thank you for such an informative and validating article! I wish there were more therapist’s out there like you!
Fantastic article. My Father suffered from NPD, I then married a guy who had NPD but he showed it in different ways eg a bodybuilder, never happy, always blaming me, obsessed with his looks etc. My Dad was manipulative, violet, lied all the time etc. I never would’ve thought that my first husband and father had similiar traits. When we seperated, he moved on so quickly and without feelings, or remorse.
I then met someone at Uni who I appeared to be an intellect, well travelled from a privledged family. I got told so many lies, I was so confussed and affraid. I was also determined to make it work, and he used that against me all the time. He would do hurtful, disrespectful things to me day in, day out. But somehow it was always my fault, I was overracting, I was being irrational etc etc. I started to doubt myself. Maybe he was right?!
Everything mentioned in your article from a victims perspective, I am ashamed to say; I have felt and experienced. I’m still wondering what is the best way to deal with him (we have a daughter) so I can’t do the no contact rule. And so far he’s agreeing to me being there when he sees her. I wouldn’t trust him alone with her…He’s capable of anything. He’s a classic example of someone with NPD. Even before I knew what the hell I was dealing with. I had said to him, that he’s capable of a n y t h i n g. This is a horrible disease that should be made more public so victims can hopeful be aware and ‘get out’.
I don’t wish it upon anyone. I also fell like that my life isn’t real that I’ve/I’m living some sort of dream.
I am a victim currently looking for a therapist in LA who is familiar with these cases. After ten years of an on and off relationship, we aren’t in physical contact anymore (ironically he is a Psychiatrist) but am still in the process of trying to put my life together and I know this will require some expertise.
I just pulled myself away from a relationship with a NPD I had (on and off) for five years. As a result, a trauma (betrayal) bond formed. I am a survivor of incest/child abuse. So, this bond fits the mold. As intelligent and strong as I am, this bond has had a powerful hold on me. My reality has been constantly distored from all the lies, deceipt and imaginary “specialness” we share. I have to constantly remind myself of “the truth”. Thankfully, my children have had very little contact with him. I’m back in therapy….utilizing EMDR. I am willing to do the work. I need the ‘draw’ to him broken for good. I’ve been in so much pain.
Such a well written and insightful article I am surprised they did not sign their name beneath it.
All I can say is I am a “survivor” of narcissistic abuse but perhaps more fortunate than most that my life has not spiraled into a well of self pity, but I was there for a year or two.
How can you not feel abandoned, cheated, betrayed by someone you love who lies all the time, constantly blames you while treating you with contempt when they are angry, yet puts you on a pedestal and tells you how much they love you the other half of the time.
I am strong and my life and career is sailing along since, but I foolishly kept “hanging in there” at the time in the hope that that her good side would prevail, only to see her turn into the most nasty and spiteful creature I could ever imagine after she ended our relationship.
But the truth is I am deeply scarred by the experience.
I think all the self doubt that I still suffer with, was always there superficially, and she saw me coming. I am a private person.
Not always, but guarded and a little cynical of peoples motives. That has now gotten ten times worse..
I will never be free of her. This must be a negative trait of the victims, but I still believe that she is my soul mate, but scarred by her own experiences as an unloved child. I got to know her family too..
I am sure a “normal” person would have gotten out. Makes me wonder if all the victims of NDP are like me in that they are good honest people who are easily taken advantage of. I have a bad habit of believing what people say, only because I don’t care to lie.
She still calls me up drunk. Only because I have moved on up in the world and her petty and “enabling” friends are not satisfying her. She would not call me if I had not moved onto a better life. She only wants “supply” and sad to say I give it to her.
I can’t call her a Narcissist and tell her all I have since read about their deceptions and selfish double lives.
We have a daughter.
I still live in the stupid hope that she will confess all and make it all like it was when things were good and she loved me.. Pity me..
That is the curse of the Narcissist.
If ever I was to begin to let it all out and yell back at her – what I think the truth was – she would quickly wind me up into corner, watching as my anger spilled over, then run to tell whoever will listen that I am a lunatic. Conveniently forgetting all her crazy Narcissist rage episodes, when I tried to talk some sense into her pig head. She’s not stupid either..
Maddening stuff..
Great article..
Stay strong.
THANK YOU- THANK YOU – THANK YOU- for writing this brilliant piece.
It brings me so much relief to know that i am NOT mad – but may look/sound like one because my husband is a bloody Narcissist. i guess i really really need that validation – you have no idea what it means to me. thank you once again.
I really needed to read this and actually couldn’t help but to burst out in tears. I feel helpless and alone. I need help and do not know where to begin. My boyfriend is a narcissist he has all the signs. I need to help me asap.
Where do you get help both for an asdult and a child in Australia? If you have money you can get help. If you do not…where can one get help?
I curious as to what the general prognosis is for the narcissist, since they do not admit themselves to having the problem. Everyone else seems to be at fault. Dr Ken Magid explains in his book, “High Risk Children Without a Conscience”, that the highest percentage — in fact, in the high 90s — of those finally being diagnosed as psychopaths, they mostly have been incarcerated. Once in prison, then a mental assessment is compelled upon them. If there are some effective treatments, I doubt that they would find it in the American correction system. It is so challenging to cope effectively with those in my own circle of family and friends who I am convinced have classic narcissistic symptoms. Furthermore, damaged emotions are unfortunately projected onto the children, even if they have not had the seriously traumatic experience(s) that the parent likely encountered in their own childhood.
This sure explains a lot! I have been on the decline for a long time and not understanding why. I have always been a “momma” to the extreme. I have worked hard (pushing–always pushing against something that I could never understand). I have worked hard not to raise my kids with the same abuses I suffered as a child, but alas, I fear my occasional angry outbursts and emotional instability may still have caused my children damage (yet another thing to feel upset and anxious about). It has been exhausting! I have suffered with everything from bulimia/anorexia, weight gain, self mutilation/image distortion, insomnia, OCD (cleaning and bathing excessively),major depression/anxiety attacks,anger management issues, suicide attempts/thoughts, and lastly, and most recently, a nervous breakdown forcing me into a 5 day hospital stay. The last crisis I endured while 3,000 miles away from home left me feeling proud to have made it through without getting too “sick” (as I term it). I also at that time came to see that it wasn’t me who was the “crazy one” because I was not even there that time and had done nothing to cause this particular crisis. I am so grateful for this article as it has given me hope that things can be better. I don’t have to feel hopeless and alone and always blaming–blaming myself alone–isolating myself for the fear of being hurt or manipulated by others. In so many ways I have been successful despite all this, therefore, it would be very surprising to most people how much I have endured. This article makes me want to go into therapy again eventually. I stopped as it only made me feel worse. Thank you!
This was a fascinating and informative blog that reinforces what I see happening to my son. However, the one thing you didn’t address was if the abused one uses drugs. My son was already a high functioning addict when he was caught in the web of a NPD woman. He has been involved with her for 6 years and during that time she was married, divorced, married again, and just divorced from husband #3. I’m thankful that he has not married her, but feel it is because he does not have a career and no money. Both husband’s did. However he has been the lead singer in a very successful band which puts her in the spotlight from time to time as he will sing TO her. Their relationship has been a rollercoaster of breakups and making up. Everyone including his kids from a former marriage, his family, his friends, counselors, even the band members have tried to convince him that she is not good for him but he defends her and even denies the damaging painful abuse she has done to him. All of us have reached the point where we know he hates us and aside from his kids, have been driven away from him. He uses when they breakup and when the emotional trauma gets too severe for him to deal with it. So there is a vicious cycle going on all the time. He will not accept any advice so stays in the midst of the pain feeling terribly lonely when she dumps him once again. He has an excellent voice and was recently set up with a special private audition with “The Voice”, which he was a no-show for. His sister who was once his best friend and I, his Mom, at 73 have made the decision to uproot my whole life and move far far away from him because of the stress, demands, threats etc Yet it breaks my heart because he is my son.
I am crying right now because for the first time, someone including myself is understanding what i have been through……i haven’t been able to function, can’t seem to trust anyone anymre, isolating myself even more than what i was before in fear….cause what ever i do or don’t do, i feel nailed….i have lost self esteem, ability to work, and live….life as we know it…..and yet his image is perfect……the confusion is so great that \i second guess everything i do…..he does this to the kids, uses them to get to me and yet everyone sees he is the most wonderful father etc my family, the family courts, friends etc see me as the problem and it doesn’t help that i can’t seem to function with life anymore..,,totally being misunderstood…..thank you….for helping me know what i have known all along is that i am not crazy…..and am a victim as much as i never wanted to believe that i could fall for what he has done….i am totally emotionally and physically exhausted and can’t seem to function with life period….it is so hard….as not to many people including therapists understand….
I see a lot of women posting here and I truly feel for you. I wrestled with an abusive NPD father for my entire chilhood vowing NEVER to put my children through what he put me through. However i then proceeded to marry a woman, who looking back had ALL the markers, but I was uneducated to the dangers as I am an Electrical Engineer not a psych professional. The rub is I have much more of my fathers NPD than I care for and was wondering if anyone could offer advice on how make someone realize they suffer from this as my wife adamantly refuses to admit she is PART of the problem. She wants the blame to be all or nothing and feels any attempt at understanding psychology is the devil so she points at me and say ” you even admitted it!” as if my courage to accept my shortcommings were acceptance of the blame and now she feels justified in how she treats me! I am going nuts and am actually at the point of leaving after 8 years. We have no children together and I wonder if it is worth the fight?
Hi Helene,
So sorry that my articles have left you crying. It is a tough realization to find out that you have been used
and abused by the one person you expected to cherish you and your children. The strange thing is, that although
it hurts, you need the truth to set you free. To realize that you are not going mad, but rather that you have
been living in madness for all those years…… no wonder you are not functioning properly.
When the enemy is within, how can you trust anyone, the truth is that you probably can’t even trust your own instinct anymore.
When that happens your world becomes very unsafe. Anyway, your instinct must be working again….. somehow you have managed to
discover what “narcissistic abuse” is, and you can identify that you have been a victim to your husbands narcissistic behaviour.
You still have life, so don’t underestimate that….. life is good, and sacred. You were left walking on eggshells because you
had no idea what was happening. As you say, he shows a different face to the world than the one you and your children live with…
this is typical. And yes, other people don’t understand why you are so difficult. The fact is that you are beginning to know
what has being going on. I suggest that you keep educating yourself, really get to know your husbands gaslighting behaviour (his
lies, his contradictions, his dishonesty,his rages, his alternating good and bad behaviours that cause your bonding, because these
are the things that have most probably caused the confusion you are experiencing. Google “Narcissistic Forums”, they can be a good
source of shared information by other people who have gone through what you have experienced.
If at any time you feel ready to go into therapy, then I would recommend that. You are right when you say that most therapists
are not familiar with narcissistic abuse, but I would not let that get in the way. Look for a therapist trained in Post Traumatic
Stress Disorder, because they will have the skill to do the work that you require. Most victims, as a result of experiencing
narcissistic abuse do suffer from PTSD. Remember, you can bring the knowledge you have about narcissism into the therapy room.
You can mention the the technical terms you are learning from my site and others (i.e. the gaslighting behaviour your husband uses
to control and confuse you. Trauma Bonding that has resulted due to his intermittent good and bad behaviour. The Cognitive
Dissonance you experience due to your trying to survive and make things manageable, etc.) Any good therapist will look up any
technical terms they are unfamiliar with in order to get better informed as a therapist. In that regard you may become a teacher
for the therapist. Once your therapist knows what they are dealing with, they will have the skills to bring you back to yourself,
help you gain your self-esteem, and keep safe. Obviously, whether you are with your husband or away from him will make some
difference to the skills you will then need, because it is vital that you stay safe, especially if still living with him.
Even if you are no longer with your husband, it is vital that you learn how to recognize narcissists when you meet them, because
many victims are re-victimized since they have been conditioned to be passive, lack boundaries, ….. and be “pleasers”. This then
makes them attractive to other narcissists….. they are attracted to this type of person like a moth is to a flame. So it is
worth doing your own recovery work so that you can put in place better and healthier boundaries.
Warmest regards.
Christine
Does anyone have advise for what to do when they’ve tricked your mutual social/ professional circle into thinking they’re just lovable and your the crazy one? I wish this was more widely known. The guy that did this to me (I won’t call him an ex since the whole thing was a hoax and he never cared about me) is still enmeshed in my social/ professional circle. I’ve had to back away from it because it’s too painful. They tell me “he loved you, he was just too weak minded….” It just feels like more gaslighting. He got inside my head and destroyed me- emotionally, spiritually, physically. I couldn’t eat, or sleep. He continues to move on- preying on other women, using them, tricking them. I think I got it the worst but we’ll see. I’m coming to learn that these people aren’t friends, I guess. When I tell them about all the manipulation, the twisting of words, how he broke me down, they all just say “why did you put up with it?” then later I see them fawning over him. Moving on hasn’t been as easy for me. It’s been 2.5 years. I have a great therapist who’s very understanding. It haunts me, though. I often think I could only be loved and happy if it’s a hoax.
Hi Donna,
Sounds as if you have had a terrible time, and now it is following you into your social group. This is typical narcissistic behaviour. They are not satisfied with using you, but they think they are entitled to everything to do with you, even your circle of friends. Your friends have no idea of what you have been through. He is using the same form of manipulation and seduction on them as he did on you, and you know how
you fell for that. The thing that makes it so hard being a victim is that it is almost impossible to explain to others what happened. Your friends don’t mean to be hurtful, they probably think you are over reacting after all this time. In fact, you are one of the lucky ones, because finally you are finding out what you have been dealing with. Many victims can never work out that they were dealing with a person with a personality disorder, they think they are the problem, that something must be wrong with them.
You can do nothing about the fact that he will continue to prey on others, it is just what he does….. it is his nature, and he is making a profession out of it. It is particularly difficult when the narcissist hangs around with the same company. Many victims end up having to give up their circle of friends, sometimes it is the only way to do “no contact”……. and that can feel like a further abuse…… another loss.
I am delighted to hear that you have a good therapist, and that you trust her. It sounds as if you are suffering from post traumatic stress disorder (PTSD), most victims do, that is why it takes so long to recover. There is life after narcissistic abuse, the road to recovery is long and arduous, not to mention expensive, but it is well worth making the journey. Once you can understand narcissism, and recognise your own defense mechanisms (i.e being a “pleaser”, your passivity, lack of boundaries, etc.), you are not likely to find yourself becoming a victim to another narcissist.
Take care on your journey of discovery. Remember, it was not your fault that this happened to you. In a strange way he has actually provided the opportunity for you to find out who you are, and discover your own areas of weakness, although this is no consolation right now, it will make you a better, wiser person.
Hi Donald, Sorry to hear that you had an abusive father , and then a wife with NPD.
Remember, we all have narcissistic tendencies, we need to, because it is how we look out for number “one”.
Problem was that your childhood experience had you conditioned in a way that other narcissists would be attracted to you.
Of course you did not know what you had been dealing with, very few victims ever know what they we dealing with……. even many who have become therapists as adults. This is why I am trying to address this whole subject of narcissistic victim abuse.
Chances are that you are not suffering from NPD, if you were you would not be asking these questions. You would be more like your wife, and you would not even entertain the idea for an instant….. after all, narcissists are perfect, everybody else is the problem……. and they project this outward, as she is on to you. This is typical practice, no surprised there.
Nobody can advise you as to what to do next, you will have to work out if it is worth the fight. I can tell you that if your
wife is a Narcissist, then you are not ever going to change her. If she is to change, then the change has to be made by her
…… and this is highly unlikely. The best thing you can do is to educate yourself as you are doing now. Unfortunately you
have learned the “narcissists dance” through your Dad. The dance is how you managed to survive, but it is also likely that you
have developed unconscious defense mechanisms as a result. Narcissists are always attracted to similar personality types, usually
those people who are passive, rescuers, carers …… these behaviour is identified through the victim’s weak boundaries, over
responsiblity, and “pleasing” behaviour. “Pleasing” is a defense mechanism developed by a child in order to stay safe, so honour
that fact in yourself. It is incredibly intelligent behaviour that spares the child from annihilation of the self when it feels
overwhelmed. So please do not feel bad about these defense mechanisms, but get to know how they work through you to-day. These
defense mechanisms unfortunately do not serve you well as an adult, actually they put you in further danger of re-victimization
from other narcissists. If you do decide to get out of your present marriage, you really do not want to end up being pursued by
another narcissist (male or female). When it comes to the narcissist, these behaviours in people become like a “flame to a moth”.
You cannot change another person, but you can change yourself. If you could do some work on your own behaviour with a therapist
it would help you realise how you enable your wife to hurt you. Of course, if you change she is not likely to appreciate that.
If you do not give her what she wants she is likely to leave you for someone who will, or punish you badly in order to get back
control over you.
If your wife is suffering from NPD, then she is likely to hurt any children you may have together, both boys and girls. I suggest you read some of the data on narcissistic mothers to understand the damage they do. You know what a narcissistic father is capable off with his children, and how especially he has affected you, his son. Before you go ahead and have children you need to understand the behaviour of narcissistic mothers….although the behaviour of both male and female narcissists share many similiarities, there are also many differences. Please do take the time to read some of the narcissistic forums with regard to such mothers: There are many forums, here are a couple to get you started:-
http://psychopathfree.com/archive/index.php/t-177.html
http://www.lisaescott.com/forum/2011/09/19/my-narcissistic-mother
Warmest regards.
Hi Helene, So sorry that my articles have left you crying. It is a tough realization to find out that you have been used and abused by the one person you expected to cherish you and your children. The strange thing is, that although it hurts, you need the truth to set you free. To realize that you are not going mad, but rather that you have been living in madness for all those years…… no wonder you are not functioning properly.
When the enemy is within, how can you trust anyone, the truth is that you probably can’t even trust your own instinct anymore. When that happens your world becomes very unsafe. Anyway, your instinct must be working again….. somehow you have managed to discover what “narcissistic abuse” is, and you can identify that you have been a victim to your husbands narcissistic behaviour.
You still have life, so don’t underestimate that….. life is good, and sacred. You were left walking on eggshells because you had no idea what was happening. As you say, he shows a different face to the world than the one you and your children live with…this is typical. And yes, other people don’t understand why you are so difficult. The fact is that you are beginning to know what has being going on. I suggest that you keep educating yourself, really get to know your husbands gaslighting behaviour (his lies, his contradictions, his dishonesty,his rages, his alternating good and bad behaviours that cause your bonding, because these are the things that have most probably caused the confusion you are experiencing. Google “Narcissistic Forums”, they can be a good source of shared information by other people who have gone through what you have experienced.
If at any time you feel ready to go into therapy, then I would recommend that. You are right when you say that most therapists are not familiar with narcissistic abuse, but I would not let that get in the way. Look for a therapist trained in Post Traumatic Stress Disorder, because they will have the skill to do the work that you require. Most victims, as a result of experiencing narcissistic abuse do suffer from PTSD. Remember, you can bring the knowledge you have about narcissism into the therapy room. You can mention the the technical terms you are learning from my site and others (i.e. the gaslighting behaviour your husband uses to control and confuse you. Trauma Bonding that has resulted due to his intermittent good and bad behaviour. The Cognitive Dissonance you experience due to your trying to survive and make things manageable, etc.) Any good therapist will look up any technical terms they are unfamiliar with in order to get better informed as a therapist. In that regard you may become a teacher for the therapist. Once your therapist knows what they are dealing with, they will have the skills to bring you back to yourself, help you gain your self-esteem, and keep safe. Obviously, whether you are with your husband or away from him will make some
difference to the skills you will then need, because it is vital that you stay safe, especially if still living with him.
Even if you are no longer with your husband, it is vital that you learn how to recognize narcissists when you meet them, because many victims are re-victimized since they have been conditioned to be passive, lack boundaries, ….. and be “pleasers”. This then makes them attractive to other narcissists….. they are attracted to this type of person like a moth is to a flame. So it is worth doing your own recovery work so that you can put in place better and healthier boundaries.
Hi Carol, I am so sorry to hear your sons story. He has no idea what he was dealing with. The damage done by the narcissist cuts all the way through to the soul. He sounds as if he may have trauma bonded with her, (this is caused by the narcissists intermittent good/bad behaviour),
and now he is finding it very difficult to let her go.
Given her history, I don’t think your son’s not having money was necessarily the problem. She took care of that little inconvenience by marring men who had money. Your son brought her something they could not provide her with. He brought her the attention and limelight she craves, however there was always going to be the time when she would get bored (as she does in all her relationships), and then he would go through the devaluing and discarding stages…… that was always a given.
It will be very hard for him to hear this as he is probably still very confused as to what happened to his relationship with this woman. He probably lasted 6 years because he did not make many demands on her….. he was most probably her play thing who made her feel young, attractive, and fun……his band and life-style have provided that need for her. Unfortunately, like most victims, he gave his heart to her, and right now he is devastated, probably he is left obsessing about her, and he may even be confused and depressed.
Nobody is going to convince him that he is better off without her. I am glad that he has a counsellor, but unfortunately, very few counsellors know how to identify narcissistic abuse. The best thing he could do is to read up on the subject, and if he thinks that this woman’s behaviour fits the description…… I then would advise that he examine what really happened to him in the relationship. Narcissists do not pick just anybody for their victim. They want sweet, kind, gentle people who will put them first above everyone else. At first the narcissist comes across as a delight, they will even act sweet, kind, and gentle themselves until they know that the victim is hooked. The victim really believes that they have meet their soul-mate, and they fall for all the illusions the narcissist spins in their web of deception. Once hooked, the victim is going to suffer, and at some stage they will find themselves all alone, sucked dry, feeling very broken.
It is sad that he is loosing everybody. I don’t suppose you could say that you had heard about a Narcissistic Personality type that made you wonder if this girl was suffering from NPD. But you need to be careful how you introduce this notion, otherwise he will feel that you don’t understand his pain, and that you are just being cruel.
LWB, I am so sorry that you have gone through so much as a result of your narcissistic relationship(s), you are truly a warrior. You certainly are not alone, there are many victims who send me their stories from all around the world, and always the story is very similar. The chances are that if your narcissist is in your life a long time, then you must be a lovely person….because they are not attracted to people like themselves (unless it is profitable for a short time).
I honour “breakdowns”, actually I see them not as breakdowns, but “BREAKTHROUGHS”. When we have a breakthrough it becomes the leveler that often leads to those “Eureka moments”…… it gets our attention that something is very wrong with our picture of our lives, and sometimes this is a pivotal event…… equivalent to a spiritual awakening really. I am glad if any of my articles have helped you to understand the insidious nature of the narcissist, if nothing else it frees you up from having to continually take the blame for the madness caused by someone else.
Hi Carol, I am so sorry to hear your sons story. He has no idea what he was dealing with. The damage done by the narcissist cuts all the way through to the soul. He sounds as if he may have trauma bonded with her, (this is caused by the narcissists intermittent good/bad behaviour),
and now he is finding it very difficult to let her go.
Given her history, I don’t think your son’s not having money was necessarily the problem. She took care of that little inconvenience by marring men who had money. Your son brought her something they could not provide her with. He brought her the attention and limelight she craves, however there was always going to be the time when she would get bored (as she does in all her relationships), and then he would go through the devaluing and discarding stages…… that was always a given.
It will be very hard for him to hear this as he is probably still very confused as to what happened to his relationship with this woman. He probably lasted 6 years because he did not make many demands on her….. he was most probably her play thing who made her feel young, attractive, and fun……his band and life-style have provided that need for her. Unfortunately, like most victims, he gave his heart to her, and right now he is devastated, probably he is left obsessing about her, and he may even be confused and depressed.
Nobody is going to convince him that he is better off without her. I am glad that he has a counsellor, but unfortunately, very few counsellors know how to identify narcissistic abuse. The best thing he could do is to read up on the subject, and if he thinks that this woman’s behaviour fits the description…… I then would advise that he examine what really happened to him in the relationship. Narcissists do not pick just anybody for their victim. They want sweet, kind, gentle people who will put them first above everyone else. At first the narcissist comes across as a delight, they will even act sweet, kind, and gentle themselves until they know that the victim is hooked. The victim really believes that they have meet their soul-mate, and they fall for all the illusions the narcisist spins in their web of deception. Once hooked, the victim is going to suffer, and at some stage they will find themselves all alone, sucked dry, feeling very broken.
It is sad that he is loosing everybody. I don’t suppose you could say that you had heard about a Narcissistic Personality type that made you wonder if this girl was suffering from NPD. But you need to be careful how you introduce this notion, otherwise he will feel that you don’t understand his pain, and that you are just being cruel.
Hi Susie, You ask me how you can get this information across to your counsellor. Why not tell him the truth. You have been doing your own research in order to understand the work you are uncovering together, and you came across the word Narcissism. When you read the various articles it led you to wonder if this is what had happened to you.
Your counsellor may or may not know about narcissistic abuse, most counsellors don’t really know much about it. But that need not be a problem. Use the technical terms you are coming across (gaslighting, co-dependency, Jackall & Hyde personalities, etc). You could say that
you have articles written by a psychotherapist who works in this area, and share the information with him. Remember, he does not need to know how to work with a narcissist, when is needed is that he understands the debth of abuse and suffering you have gone through with your narcissist.
It is important for you to discover the things that you did that attracted your narcissist to you (i.e. your passivity, your “pleasing” nature, your enabling, giving too much and asking for little back etc.). Narcissists do not pick just anybody for their victim. They want sweet, kind, gentle people who will put them first above everyone else…..someone who will make them feel |special”. At first the narcissist comes
across as a delight, they will even act in a very seductive way that makes them look sweet, kind,and gentle themselves. This is all a ploy to hook their victim. The victim really believes that they have meet their soul-mate, and they fall for all the illusions the narcissist spins in their web of deception. Once hooked, the victim is going to suffer, and at some stage they will find themselves all alone, sucked dry, feeling very confused and broken.
Many people have written to me asking this same question (because they knew that their counsellor did not fully understand what they have suffered). It is for that reason that I compiled the collection of articles in one ebook on my site. Plople can buy the book and download it onto their computer, and email it to someone else. If you think it would be helpful, and that your counsellor would find the articles useful for working with you, you could either tell him about my site, or make him a present of the ebook. You could then pick out the things that resonate with you…………. For example, if you are finding it impossible to let your narcissist go, you could discuss with your therapist the possibility that you may have trauma bonded with them. If you felt that you were loosing your mind, you could explore the Gaslighting Behaviour that happened in your relationship. You could also look at the different faces of your narcissistic abuser as they lead the relationship through different phases; The Idealization Stage, Devaluation Stage, and the Discard Stage.
It is important that you learn about yourself, how you lost yourself in the relationship, because you don’t want to find yourself repeating this again. Narcissists are attracted to those people who are already conditioned in the narcissists dance …… and by the sounds of it, you did dance the dance. If you are realizing that there has been more than one narcissist in your life, then it really is useful to find the first source, because that would have been the place where you would have used unconscious defense mechanisms in order to survive (especially if you were young). In my case it was a narcissistic brother whom I loved. The older he got the worse his behaviour became, he did a lot of damage before I ever worked out that he was suffering from a narcissistic personality disorder. Unfortunately I went on to attract similar behaviour from other narcissists, finally I asked what was the common dominator here? To my horror I found the answer was “ME!” That was the best question I ever asked in my life, because that set me on a journey to discover my behaviour that left me wide open to be abused. I must
admit I felt a bit of a fool to discover this, but it was a fascinating journey to discover and understand the unconscious defense mechanisms at work…… without them I would not have survived as well as I have.
I wish you the best of luck on your journey of recovery, and remember, there is life after narcissism. Warmest regards.
I am so sorry that my articles made you burst into tears. However, if your boyfriend is a narcissist, and you do seem to think so, then you may well be in a very abusive relationship. I don’t know if you are living with him, or have children together, but if not then you have serious decisions to make for your future.
It is a shock when you first find out that your loved one is a narcissist. Our tendency is to go into denial, to find excuses for their behaviour. We even convince ourselves that in some way we are to blame, “If only I did or did not do the things that upset him/her”. The truth is that the victim is not to blame for the narcissists personality disorder, something happened to him long before you came into his life to cause him to be the way he is. The problem now is that you have to endure his cruel abusive behaviour, which usually only gets worse with time. The longer you stay in this relationship the more and more he will erode your self-esteem and confidence, that is a fact.
Nobody can tell you what to do, that is something you must decide for yourself…… only you know your circumstances. You have made a good start, most people never find out that they are in a relationship with a narcissist, and those who do find out are often so damaged by years of abuse that they are left helpless and hopeless, unable to take action. I suggest that your first priority is to find a therapist to work with. Not all therapists understand narcissistic behaviour, but you can bring that information you have educated yourself with into the therapy room (the rages, lies, confusion, gaslighting, etc). I suggest that you find a therapist trained in “Trauma Work”, because they will understand what happens to the victim who is traumatised.
Keep educating yourself, go into the narcissistic Forums (Google Narcissistic Forums)and read what other people are saying and experiencing. You need to allow your story to become clearer to yourself even though this can be very painful and worrying, you need to know the extent of your boyfriends abuse towards you. Coming out of denial is a huge step on the journey back to recovery. You say you feel alone. If at all possible you need to connect back with friends and family, because you are going to need all the support you can get if you are to leave your boyfriend. You don’t have to tell them what is going on if you don’t want to, but just having friends and family at hand means that you are not alone. A therapist will help you through your confusion, pain and grief….BUT they will not advise you what to do (and they should not do that). The decision in the long run needs to be yours, because you are the one to live with the consequences of staying or going. But you need to clear your head and see how bad things really are before you can make the right decision for you.
I do not advise confronting your boyfriend about being “narcissistic”, it will not change things, but may make him try to keep you away from other people….. they like to isolate their victims, that way they have more control over them. I hope this gives you a starting point, but stay safe, observe his behaviour, and your own responses to his behaviour. Both will be useful to discuss with a therapist.
Hi Sharada, Sorry to hear that your husband is narcissistic. It is great that you have worked out what has been going on in your relationship,
many victims never come across the term “Narcissism”, so they cannot work out what is happening to them. So very well done to you
that your research has led you to this discovery. No girl, I doubt that you are mad, just someone caught up in madness. Glad I have
been of some help to you. I understand fully what it means to get validation, it is like getting yourself back again. Just take
care as you get yourself educated in the subject, and don’t bother about educating your husband as to what is wrong with him, because
he will not take this on if he is a narcissist…… you are the problem, he is perfect. Warmest regards to you, and thank you for your kind words.
Hi Grant, Thank you for your kind words, actually I am the writer of everything that is on my site. It is insightful because I have made this journey as a victim myself, more than once I may add. I was born into it as an infant, and was subject to a narcissistic psychopathic brother, whom I absolutely loved, he was my hero. Of course, I confused love for trauma bonding. A lot of the time I was living in a war zone, never knowing when his loving winning way would turn to aggressive rage. He actually put three siblings into intensive care, I was one.
I am glad to hear that you are a survivor, but sorry you had to go through this very painful and demoralizing experience. You have managed to discover what you were dealing with, and although that is very upsetting, at least the truth will set you free…..in time. You should be proud of yourself for catching on so quick, many people never discover the term “NPD”, and they remain in state of confusion, thinking the situation must have been somehow all their fault. They have no idea of the gaslighting behaviour used, the love bombing that is followed by the devaluing, that they were the narcissistic supply that held the narcissists ego togehter, but cost them a high price. They spend half their life blaming themselves for the relationship failing.
But not you Grant. You understand what has happened, and you have survived……but part of survival is limping along for some time while you make sense of the madness, and allow yourself to heal up from the insidious abuse you have received. Forgiveness is something every victim needs to arrive at, forgiveness for self. Constantly I hear people saying, I don’t understand why I took so long to get out of the relationship, what was wrong with me, and what is wrong with me now that I still love them and would go back in a heart-beat if they said they would change. It is a normal reaction to feel confused, abandoned, betrayed, and bereft when you have lost someone that you loved, even when you did not love their behaviours. Without doubt, narcissists are infectious, charming, great company when they are getting the attention they want. Their “child-like” persona brings out our own playfulness, and we love that quality in them. Actually, they are children disguised as adults, and for that reason
we want to protect them, and forgive them quickly. They are attracted to us because we have empathy and compassion, we are most likely over responsible, and willing to please…… these qualities they do not have themselves, and they crave them.
I am glad that you are strong and I hope that you managed to continue to be successful in your career, despite what was done to you. To be successful is the greatest revenge you can have. If you give her any attention, negative or positive, then she still feels in power. To be successful does not require you to give her any attention, but your success will tap into her deep feelings of envy, which she will hate.
To be scared by the experience is healthy, it means that you know somewhere within yourself that something is wrong with the relationship the way it is. Most victims suffer from post traumatic stress after such an encounter, and it needs time to make a complete recovery. You may need to go into therapy for a while if you find that the recovery is taking too long.
What touches us changes us, and narcissistic abuse touches us at a deep level of our souls. You have to go through all the usual pain associated with loss (Denial and Isolation, Anger,Bargaining, Depression and Acceptance). But there are other losses to deal with also, the loss of trust, of respect for self, the fear of this happening again, the loss of our own innocence which leaves us cynical. In truth, all victims have one thing in common, their naivety. Victims give too much away without asking for something back, so they give more than they receive.
Narcissists usually pick people who have already been conditioned in the narcissistic dance, they are attracted to those individuals the way a moth is attracted to a flame. Can you trace back to your childhood to discover if you were victimized then, and if so, what did you have to do in order to stay safe? Children have unconscious defense mechanisms that click in whenever the child is feeling overwhelmed, and the child then adapts those defenses unknowingly. They become pleasers, they withdraw into their selves, become passive and compliant, overly responsible nice children…….. these mechanisms are good ways for keeping them safe when their surrounding are harsh. Unfortunately, these unconscious defense mechanisms are carried into adulthood, waiting to be exploited by other narcissists. And yes, all victims are similar in personality, good, kind people, who are overly responsible, and feel a need to care for others. These are all good qualities, and we don’t want to kill them off, but we need to be conscious as to when to use them, and not allow them to make us victims to abuse. We have to learn how to have healthy relationships that are reciprocal in their nature, where give and take are the basic of the relationship, rather than one taking, while the other gives.
Lovely to hear from you, please do not give up hope, get your revenge by being successful with your life. I write on my site in order to let people know that there is life after narcissistic abuse, in fact a far healthier one if you work on your own issues that mark you out for becoming a victim. It is common for victims to be re-victimized, but only if they have not discovered their own weakness.
Dear Stephanie, I am pleased to hear that you have managed to pull away from the narcissist in your life. It takes courage to do the recover work, but it can be a glorious journey back to oneself. You are doing the right things to aid your recovery. Understanding the narcissistic behaviour is like getting the lost parts of a jigsaw puzzle, suddenly the picture all comes together, and clarity follows. The trauma bonding is an intelligent defense mechanism, it served you well while you were unable to get away. Good luck with your therapy.
Hi Christine
Thank you for this information. I left the narcissist x 6 years ago. There are 2 children from the relationship that he uses as bait to feed his behaviour. A very messy divorce and property settlement, that he came out on top of ( I got less than 1/4 of the assets). It continues still, he fails to pay child support and paints me as the bad person whenever he chased for money. My major worry is always the children, who are both teenagers now, but now he using them. How do I protect them from him? As you have pointed out he paints me as the crazy, controlling one, and I still find it amazing that people believe him. I’m slowly rebuilding myself, finding a good job, and moving on. I’ve had a couple of relationships since, but always attract another narcissist, one day I hope that I will be willing to form another bond with someone.
….and then they alienate your children from you. My children blame me for not being a better parent. How?! How do I get them to understand all of this. They are 20 and 23.
Dear Christine: Thank you for your blog article and your descriptions of Narcissistic Victim Syndrome. Your article is the first, most accurate description of the abuse suffered by victims that I have found. My father abused me in every way you stated and openly said there was nothing wrong with him. You could write a book about what he did to me, starting at age 5! The effects were exceptionally harmful on me. Fortunately, I got help and have recovered to a large degree, but my therapist never really diagnosed my NPD father or my NVS. I found your article when I was trying to improve my professional career “potential.” I got a lot of help from Elenor Payson’s book, The Wizard of OZ and other narcissists. Your article “picked up” where Ms. Payson’s book left off. Thank you for your work in this area… you just don’t know how uplifting it was to read the descriptions of abuse and to find it is not my fault. If you ever need proof of your contentions, just give me a call.
CB
thank you for your words of advice….i have had therapy and continue to do so and did bring up your suggestions and i have been diagnosed with ptsd and we do have a plan in place to help stop the abuse by no communication with him which has made a huge difference in my healing he still tries to intimidate me…will follow me….when i drop off the kids to him as we are separated and have been for years and the courts reversed the full custody i had of the children to parrallel parenting after i went to the police after he threatened me and finally realized after many things he would do that did not make sense to me including cutting the wires in the house which i realized after his threat was intentional….the police came back and said to me that after they spoke to my ex husband that the matter was better dealt with in the family court system other than the criminal system…..and so i got served with court papers him wanting to change the custody and accusing me of all kinds of things i did not do….i told the children’s lawyer that obviously full custody was not settling the situation and if she had any suggestions i was glad to take them as his behaviour was impacting on the kids and not just me….since my submission to you and your recommendations, i was advised no communication with him and it has made a huge difference in my life….alhtough he keeps trying in covert ways….but for me this is a way to heal is not have contact with him….he uses the kids however as ways to get to me and i have to stop reacting when the kids come home and tell me things….as i just enable him….again and again…..i am learning slowly lol not fast enough for my situation there has been so much damage done…by his behaviour….i have been abandoned by some of my family, friends and even my eldest adult daughter….everyone i went to for help including my family doctor….they all believed him…he got to them before i even realized i was in trouble…my family doctor when i told her about how he had cut the wires in my home…..she just looked at me straight in the eyes, pulled her chair towards me and said…\’ you get along with him\’ she never believed me…i was shocked that the police chose to have his threat on my life and him cutting the wires in my home as a family court system problem not a criminal one….you do tend to feel alone when even systems that you go to for help dont get it……thanks again….as since your advice….my therapy is dealing with the ptsd….and working in dealing with the narcissit in my life….what i am learning is he falls under being a covert narcissist…..helene
Thank you so much for sharing….when i read what you wrote….you basically stated everything i went and am still going through… and have the same questions….i truly dont feel alone anymore with this blog….i have a lot to learn still and will i am sure for a lifetime…but it is imperative that systems, therapists, etv get to know about this and support victims of such a crime….as to me this is insane that we try to reach out when we finally realize we are victims of such abuse and everywhere you go, the doors get shut or you are seen as the one with the problem….and when you break down as you don’t know how to react or deal with your truth anymore….you only support the narcissist in your life to see you and have everyone see you as the crazy one….education is key not only for us but for family court, criminal justice system, child protection systems etc…..i am dealing with child and family system at this time as our daughter developed an eating disorder non specified….and they insist that i meet with her father…..you are dammed if you don’t want to as you know he will twist everything you say and the pay back after the session if he confront him with anything he did not follow through with in the recommendations for our daughter’s well being will be hell…..i wanted to bring the woman in crisis worker to sessions with the therapist without my ex husband for support and even the child and family eating disorder consultant refused me to have that support….it is unbelievable how you are victimed not only once but by many other systems….that are suppose to be there for support….and help….i feel for all of us going through this…..and too bad the narcissists in our lives dont feel they have a problem and seek help…as this would make things good too…..we all need help//// like our son said…after we watched a movie on bullying….he said to me…mom you need to do something about dad bullying you….and i did….and all i got was doors closed and slapped with changing custody ….because i decided to talk and get help…..our children have learned that there is no help out there…eventhough i keep telling them there is….but their experience with everything that has happpened is there isn’t…..again, i have the kids seeking professional help for them so they have a neutral person to help them but i do question their training in understanding this and being able to help the kids cope and deal with what they are experiencing….i am learning you can only do your best…..as a parent and be there…..you have no control about what happens beyond that….
Words cannot express how happy I was to read about NVS. I am a victim and have been for 25 years until my awakening 12 months ago. I have always felt completely alone and isolated with no one to turn to. That is partly because no one knows that my husband is an emotional and verbal abuser, since it all happens in private so he can maintain his glorified public image. He is a classic stealth narcissist and on the continuum of 0-10 for narcissism I would rate him at around 8.75 on the NPD scale. These last 25 years of my life have been so soul destroying, loveless and confusing that there are literally no words to describe it. It all makes perfect sense to me now and I can see him for what he really is. What you have described could be written about me. I have lost my sense of self and self esteem, I have generalized anxiety, bouts of depression, fears and phobias, etc. I have been seeing a Clinical Psychologist for around 6 months now and although it is not a quick fix, I find that just being able to tell my story is therapeutic. I’m still lost in the wilderness though and have my ups and downs but I feel like I’m slowly crawling my way out of the darkness. It’s a lonely journey and the continual feeling of abandonment is what makes it so hard. Most people don’t even know what narcissism and narcisstic personality disorder are, let alone what NVS is, so I would be wasting my time trying to explain myself. Additionally, because my narcissist has cultivated such a perfect public image and is himself a medical practioner of high standing, everyone thinks he is a wonderful person and if there is a problem in our relationship it would be me who has the problem. I need lot’s of therapy to heal my wounds and hope that NVS becomes officially recognised as soon as possible to that professionals treating this are able to develop appropriate therapy. It’s serious abuse when someone can destroy your entire life without ever being caught. I’ll never get back the past 25 years of my life but I hope that therapy will at least help me get myself back.
This is awesome! I have an unusual and complicated case. I have adopted a child that exhibits these behaviors towards me, the mother figure. She has issues with the mother figure because of her past trauma. I have been blindsided by these behaviors along with every other home she has been in. No one has been able to help her or understand the situation. I am now understanding why, this situation is beyond most therapist’s knowledge. This helps me make sense of what has happened and what is currently going on. Thanks!
Thank you for this article. One thing I’ve had trouble finding is information on how to support someone who’s coping with NPVS. I believe I am married to someone with NPVS. Her mother was likely NPD and she was in a long-term relationship with a man who was NPD (the relationship ended in 2006). He had a daughter from a previous marriage and it was always a source of trauma for her.
I am hoping for some advice, because I have a daughter from a previous marriage and every time my daughter comes to visit my wife shuts down. She refuses to even consider trusting my daughter and she makes me feel like crap for bringing her around. I want to be a good father and continue having visitation with my daughter, but it puts such a strain on my marriage I am almost at my wit’s end. Is it possible that my wife will ever not be suspicious and mistrusting of my daughter? I love them both so much and I could never stop seeing either one of them. Is there something I can do to help ease the tension it causes in our relationship?
Thanks,
Tom
Hello. I have spent a very long time reading about NPD & trying to find help for victims of NPD. This article was such an eye opener. I am not involved with someone, but my 50 yo brother is. He has been with her for around 14 years & they now have 3 children, 11, 9 & 7. I won’t go into the whole story, but I will say that she has managed to remove me, my daughter, my sister & her husband from his life. He & I were always very close & I still love him dearly, but I no longer could put up with things he was doing to hurt us. We all knew that he was doing ‘as he was told’ by her, but in the end I just couldn’t take it any more & told him I no longer wanted a relationship with him. He has made my mum cry so often, recently telling my parents his children hated them & no longer wanted anything to do with them, so don’t bother sending cards or gifts as they don’t want anything from you anymore. He told my daughter that his children wouldn’t be coming to her 18th as his wife wasn’t invited so the kids didn’t want to come. This was an outright lie as the invitation was addressed to him & family, so it was her choice not to come & then manipulate the kids into believing it was better for them to stay home with her rather than go to see their cousin they once loved. My bro came to her 18th but came 2 hours late & left after an hour, really not speaking to either of us. He puts his wife on a pedestal & although he has said to my parents ‘I know she has problems’ he refuses to see anything she does that causes us hurt is a problem. I am wondering is there a way that we can make him see she is suffering NPD? Now it’s very hard to do anything as I have said I don’t want a relationship with him anymore, but both my younger brothers still have contact with him. Does it have to come from him first or is there a way that he can be shown that what is happening to him is not normal. She has made him go to therapy as she made him believe everything that happens in their life is all his problem. She has recently put up something on facebook saying how you can love someone that’s broken & he has commented, thank you for loving me as broken as I am. Yes he is broken now, but never was. He was always the most caring loving person in the world, now he’s just a confused broken person. He has that disassociation where he can’t focus when you speak to him. It’s like he’s in lala land. He just isn’t the person I grew up with & loved so dearly. I am so worried he’s going to have a heart attack as he is constantly stressed, has insomnia & works so very hard, not only in his job as an entertainment agent, but also is singer in a band & sings at least 3 nights a week. Then he has to come home do homework with the kids. He hasn’t got time to think. I truly worry about him. Any information on how this can be handled would be greatly appreciated, or as I said earlier, is this something that he has to realize before we can assist him. Thanks again for your input here, it’s really made me feel like I have a far better understanding of the situation. Linda